Miata Updates - PF05 Installed

Kinja'd!!! "Arrivederci" (arrividerci)
10/19/2020 at 11:20 • Filed to: None

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Now that we’re back from the beach, I was able to get around to installing the PF05 yesterday and took the car out for a drive.

The good news: the car looks awesome!

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The bad news: with the 235/45 RE71Rs there’s a very slight rub at all four corners. A more aggressive alignment and rolled fenders should do the trick there, though.


DISCUSSION (17)


Kinja'd!!! Tripper > Arrivederci
10/19/2020 at 11:27

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That looks AWESOME!


Kinja'd!!! Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney > Arrivederci
10/19/2020 at 11:32

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That’s a delightful NC, very nice!


Kinja'd!!! Arrivederci > Bob Loblaw Made Me Make a Phoney Phone Call to Edward Rooney
10/19/2020 at 11:35

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Thank you!


Kinja'd!!! Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Arrivederci
10/19/2020 at 11:36

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My miata rubs in the fronts under full suspension load. I should probably fix this but I havent been tracking the car so Ive just ignored the problem. I can’t replicate it on the street no matter how hard I have tried so its not that bad I guess. But definitely at speed on track around hard right turns the left tire rubs on the fender. And not on the edges but inside the fender itself. I discovered this first from the obvious sound but then my fender liner was rubbed to oblivion in one particular spot in the center. I suppose only solution is to raise the ride height or stiffer springs. But I really don’t want to raise it (because like you, it looks cool!) and im not about to drop money on springs. 


Kinja'd!!! Arrivederci > Tripper
10/19/2020 at 11:36

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Thanks!  Just a bit of vinyl now and it’ll be all set for quite some time.


Kinja'd!!! Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Arrivederci
10/19/2020 at 11:38

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Those look great! The offset is perfect.


Kinja'd!!! Arrivederci > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
10/19/2020 at 11:38

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That’s what’s happening here - under compression it’s rubbing just a touch on the inside of the fender lip, maybe 2-3mm. I think alignment may even fix it, but there are so many more 200tw options with 235/45 than 235/40, I figure I should go ahead and do both since the plan is for this thing to keep seeing some SCDE and autocross.

I have the Ohlins set pretty firm and am running Progress sways so it’s already rather stiff.  I don’t want to limit travel until I have to.


Kinja'd!!! Jarrett - [BRZ Boi] > Arrivederci
10/19/2020 at 11:45

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I love everything about this. I wouldn’t think twice about slapping those on my car. 


Kinja'd!!! Arrivederci > Jarrett - [BRZ Boi]
10/19/2020 at 11:50

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Thank you!


Kinja'd!!! Arrivederci > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
10/19/2020 at 11:50

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Thank you!


Kinja'd!!! t0ast > Arrivederci
10/19/2020 at 12:10

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Good choice in rubber, and those wheels look great. Best of luck eliminating the rub as well.

FWIW, best I could cram under my NC while I had it was 245/40R17 RE71Rs on 17x9 ET48 wheels with an alignment of -2.8F/-2.6R (guessing at ~0.5" lower than yours) and rolled rear fenders. Those would only ever barely rub on huge/sharp dips in the road with a passenger in the car. An earlier set of 235/40 Dunlop ZIIs was totally rub-free for me, but that unfortunately still looks like it’s a really uncommon (and expensive) size. Inner/outer wear evenness was remarkably close in spite of those camber numbers just using it as a 3-season daily + autocrosser (~2 events/month), so definitely don’t be afraid to go nuts on your alignment.


Kinja'd!!! Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Arrivederci
10/19/2020 at 12:21

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Im on 205s on 15x7 wheels so its even more depressing that my setup rubs lol. But such is life on older miatas. I imagine the NC definitely has much more options for wider tires fitting. My other miata on the same suspension didnt rub since it was set higher and a less aggressive alignment. But yeah in your case definitely just try the fender roll, I bet that would do the trick, just dont do it with a hammer... 


Kinja'd!!! Arrivederci > t0ast
10/19/2020 at 12:24

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Hmm - it sounds like the aspect ratio and alignment are killing me here.  I need an alignment anyway, so I should start there to see if tucking them in a bit more will be enough.  Thanks!


Kinja'd!!! sony1492 > Arrivederci
10/19/2020 at 14:28

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Your car makes me want to get an NC in a few years


Kinja'd!!! mhr555 > Arrivederci
10/20/2020 at 07:42

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Looks fantastic man.

The N C2 was so much better looking than the NC1 I had.
I sometimes miss that car. Would have been a great STR build if I would have just bought a beater truck to haul the dog we got at the time.


Kinja'd!!! Arrivederci > mhr555
10/20/2020 at 08:39

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One thing I’ve come to realize as I’ve gotten older is to have cars that serve a specific purpose if at all possible.  I always tried to have a DD that I could also compete in autocross with, but that usually ended up ruining it as a DD to make it competitive, or it wasn’t competitive.  


Kinja'd!!! Arrivederci > sony1492
10/20/2020 at 08:40

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Do it! NC s are getting cheap, they’re mostly very reliable and the aftermarket support is rather strong and seems to be growing.